Oh hub-follower, why hast thou deserted me?
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I don't get it
Hardly a day goes by without receiving an e-mail from Hubpages announcing I have a new follower, and as I delete the email, I think, "Thanks." Yet, the number of followers on my profile does not increase relative to the number of new followers announced.
It seems that for every new follower, I must have lost one, or sometimes two.
Why is that? Do I manage to alienate the sensitivities of my followers as fast as I gain new ones?
Well, I suppose that's possible. I am fairly free with my opinions, though not often impolite about them. Though I must admit I have little patience for a certain sort of follower, the ones that spout regurgitated political dogma at every given opportunity, regardless of the depth or subject matter of whatever it is I've written. The ones that sound like a broken record, no matter what stand you've taken.
They know who they are, and good riddance to you, I say. You're boring.
But even so, the infrequency of such encounters hardly accounts for the static nature of my stated number of followers, not when I'm supposedly attracting new ones at the rate my inbox would suggest.
So what's going on? It's one of those mysteries of the universe my curiosity can't explain.
Maybe it's because I do delete such announcements and rarely check out the new followers.
I would hope newcomers would understand that with 854, I mean 853 -- oh look! 852 -- followers, it would take all my time to keep up with all of you. Hey -- back up to 853. And I don't have much time -- unhappily. Sorry, down to 852, again.
To bad we don't get reports on who stopped following us, only who has begun to do so. And I don't give it enough attention that I could possibly go through 850+ avatars and play "memory" to see who used to be there but is there no longer.
Still, I wonder.
So I delved into my trash box --
(I thought you said you don't have much time, you're thinking, and here you're going through your e-trash.) Okay, so it's late at night on my one day off this week, and I just finished two hubs and wrote three interviews for an upcoming book tour, and I don't want to watch TV.
As I was saying, so I delved into my trash box to see who had decided to follow me these past couple of weeks. Maybe this would be a clue. Maybe there are those who follow, then change their minds and unfollow as quickly as they made that first decision...
You followed and the next day, unfollowed. Why? Because I didn't follow you? Well....
One thing I noticed is that some of new followers are newcomers to Hubpages, some with zero hubs and zero followers.
Did you want me to follow you? Were you hoping that by following someone already established with lots of followers, their followers would follow them and you'd gain more followers when the person you followed followed you? Hmmm?
Or did you follow me because you like my style, my subject matter, my writing in general (good, the best reason for following) and hoped I'd reciprocate, follow you and read your work?
That's fair, but I don't have the time to read loads of work, and what time I do have I tend to devote to those who've already proven their writing to be of interest to me. Or have become friends. So when I didn't show up, didn't read and comment and didn't follow you, you got mad and unfollowed me?
If so, here's a bit of advice.
If you want me to follow you, here's what you need to do. Read one of my articles and leave a comment, an interesting comment that invites exchange. We can back and forth a bit, and I guarantee, that if I find you engaging, I will read your work and leave comments there.
Make sure you acknowledge my comment, when I leave one.Nothing pisses me off more than taking the time to give a heart-felt, well-written comment and being ignored. In fact, I've unfollowed those who don't respond as a habit. Lately, one of my well-established "friends" here has begun ignoring comments I've left for him. If it continues, he'll have lost a follower.
I always take the time to acknowledge all comments. To me it's just plain good manners. And if a comment invites discussion, I'm game. I'll go for it. And if you should come back and respond to my response, I'll respond again.
When I know I want to read more of your work, I will follow you. It's as simple as that.
But if you're running around the site, following willy-nilly and expecting immediate follow-backs, it ain't going to happen. To unfollow in a fit of pique is just plain childish and misses the point of following altogether.
Wow -- the number of followers is now 855. I wonder for how long.
So what is a good reason to unfollow someone? For me, as previously stated, I will quit someone who consistently ignores my support. As previously mentioned, I have very little time to devote to my on-line life, what with a job, a house, a husband, friends, "real-life" paying writing assignments and a book on the market and promotion to do.... Why waste what little I have on someone who doesn't acknowledge the effort. There are some here who never answer comments. That's just plain rude, and more than a little arrogant.
Another reason to unfollow is inadvertently following someone whose political point of view is their entire reason for being. You know the type. They announce their political affiliations with the same zeal once reserved for one's favorite sports team. A difference of opinion is an attack. Everything they write is a political sound-bite (and rarely original.)
No matter what you write about -- child abuse, working conditions in China, environmental issues -- their response is the same. It's all the fault of the left (or the right.) Their comments are repetitive, irrelevant to the subject matter, and persistent, sometimes to the point you have to begin screening comments.
Unfollow! Yes. As fast as I can.
And sometimes, someone says something so adverse to your belief system that you simply can't, in good conscience continue to support them. Yes, it happens. Not often, but it does. I recently unfollowed someone who made a lot of derogatory comments about the abilities of women, just as I would cut such a person off from my "real" life.
And my last reason for unfollowing is a petty one, and I'm almost ashamed to admit to it. There are those who post so much, so often that their announcements of a new hub clutter my inbox. Every day they publish 3,4,5 new hubs. Who can read that much? Who can write that much? I don't even have the time to scan their emails, let alone read their writing. And let's be honest, most such prolific posters don't offer much in the way of quality....
So, having thought of all the reasons I might unfollow someone, I can't help but wonder who is unfollowing me -- and why.
What are your reasons to unfollow someone?
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I think you've thoroughly covered all of the reasons that a hubber might choose to "unfollow" another hubber.
On a personal basis I have never "unfollowed" but I usually don't follow another hubber unless I've read a few hubs and like the quality of their writing. I also have a high tolerance for differences of opinion as long as the hubber is respectful in their comments.
If I receive notification that someone new is following me I always review their profile and if I see any titles of interest I will click on one or two and leave a comment.
I do cherish followers who leave comments that enhance my hubs and those who love to enter into an exchange of ideas. That, to me, is one of the best perks of hubbing.
I'm curious...how do you detect this plagiarism?
i am thoroughly perplexed by the people that follow me. i am a fairly new hubber and i don't publish hubs that often (I only have 2) yet i recieve emails that such and such has followed me, when no one has looked at either of my hubs that day or in some cases, that week. Are they just so hungry for followers that they have to follow every hubber that they see in hopes of reciprocation?
I enjoy your writing style.... and I love this hub...
I have never "unfollowed" anyone, because I would feel as if I were acting in a childish manner, but I feel like getting hold of some of my "part time" followers who click the AWESOME button and then wander away into the ether, no doubt to click another couple of dozen AWESOME buttons. But what would I do if I got hold of them? Read them the riot act?
I feel I would have to read it to them because too many of them don't seem to be able to read for themselves.
But even is they comment, it is quite obvious that a large majority either don't read, or worse, skim.
I have an average amount of "followers" in name only, but very few; far too few readers, and I thought that was why most of us were here.
By the way, WONDERFULLY INSTRUCTIVE, AWESOME BEAUTIFUL, USEFUL, AWESOMELY AMUSINGLY AWESOME hub...
Oops, I let myself down there.
Hello Mrs. Lynda, I love the faces: happy or not so happy. I think that is because yellow is my favorite colour.
Regarding the "following" issues here on Hub-pages, I do think there are quite a few of them. I have never unfollowed anyone but that does not mean it is an impossibility. Maybe I have just been a little lucky not to run into anyone whom I follow, that has made really nasty comments.
Not responding to some comments is something I may be guilty of myself (for sure, not maybe ...). I have found blogs of mine with comments from people and I see that they are months old ... I feel dumb to answer after such a long time but I feel dummer for not answering on time. Sometimes I post-pone things and I forget about them ... I need a secretary, (or smoke less).
I do try to respond to comments though, especially since I do enjoy conversations. Without comments, I probably would not have continued writing here for this long. I wouldn't have much of a reason.
I enjoyed this piece of writing (like all others, really) - ethics on Hub-pages is a great subject to discuss, in my opinion.
All the very best!
I am confused as to your ups and downs of followers. I havn't had this problem on Hubpages and feel bad that it's happening to you. Regarding comments. Although I don't unfollow people unless I think their not making any sense (which has happened twice here)I get very agitated with the writers here that publish hubs but don't comment to people. All of us have busy lives and take time out to make comments. I think the best part of Hubpages is getting to know people through comments and supporting eachother. I think it would be funny to have a list of hubbers who don't comment, kinda like bad check lists. LOL
I obviously read something you published and decided I liked it enough to want to read more. Since I don't remember {but could have in a fugue state - my hubby's got dementia and so I, with little sleep as his care giver - sometimes post and do not remember} ever hubbing you need not worry about unfollowing me but you may see me around your hub since I did like this hub - you style of writing is 'in your face' and to a New Yorker, that's all there is..
Good morning. I wonder if politics is the culprit. I have noticed in the past few years that people get fired up! When I read opinions that are different from my own..... I think. Some folks just get mad.
I'm still following you!
I took most of the summer off to spend a little time with my children before they flew the nest. In my time away, I notice a fluctuation in my followers following and un-following me. I figure there were many reasons behind this. I was not producing enough to satisfy them. I wasn't writing the materials they expected. Or I didn't follow them right away. Whatever the reason, I tried not to take it too personal, but was curious who left. I hope I didn't offend them, but then again, maybe I did with my point of view. Oh well, sometimes these things can't be helped. I decided not to long ago that I was having trouble keeping up with those that I have followed; so I spent a few hours looking for the ones that fell in the crack. What I found was majority of the people I had been following were inactive for six months or longer. Therefore, I had to expand my group of people I wanted to follow.
I haven't been too impressed with the live feed that is now the HP homepage. I feel that I am still missing hubs from people that only write once or twice a month. I was happy to see you are still here despite your busy schedule. I am sorry if it seems that I haven't supported your work. In fact, I was so impressed with one of your hubs, that I passed it on to a cousin of mine, who passed it on to other family members.
It is a curious thing as to why people decide to un-follow someone. Maybe someday HP will come out with a list to show us who left so we don't have to play the guessing game. Thanks for posting this interesting hub and sorry my reply is so long winded.
Sorry to say it, my friend, but your grandparents didn't invent the AWESOME button. The AWESOME button was invented by a little street kid who had aspirations to acquire as much Street Cred as possible by the time he was thirteen.
Interesting that you should describe this very thing that has me wondering too. I noticed a follower unfollowed me the other day and wondered what I said that offended, or what I wrote that turned them away.
Then I remembered that so many I knew have left, and so many of the new comers are one shot Johnnies. Like someone described above, they follow you for no apparent reason, you read their profile to see if their writing interests you and they have no hubs. ?? So you don't follow back and they unfollow.
Lynda, your writing is engaging and provocative of great discussions. I can't imagine why your hubs are not appearing on the front page. They should be.
Hello Peg,
a Few seconds ago I pressed the wrong line on my email and before I could prevent it I had stopped following somone who I admire !They must think I am strange to stop and then follow again,happened twice this week ! Wish hubpages would seperate the lines !,jandee
Hi Lynda, I’m boots and all on your page about this issue, although I have stopped registering the number of followers I have. I was devastated when I’ve lost the first one, and more so after I’ve taken the time to identify her - until today I have no idea what could have been her reason to drop me. So I’ve decided to ignore the numbers. What my eyes don’t see, my heart cannot feel.
There are two reasons why I follow others:
1) I like their topics and style of writing;
2) They’ve started to follow me.
I will only stop following a member of the first group when they start to bore or irritate me, and never because they don’t read my hubs. I give members of the second group a few weeks time to prove to me that they’ve started to follow me because they want to read my hubs and share their thoughts with me, and NOT because they want me to read them. Of course I will read them, but only after they’ve given feedback on one of my hubs. Tit for tat for them. Surprisingly many of them become friends and move up to the first group. I try to follow not more than 100, because I really don’t have enough time to handle more.
This is such a relevant topic in here, and you’ve said all there is to say. Voted up and brilliant.
Great hub, I am pleased to say that I have some very loyal followers(present company included) I only have 10 more followers than I do published hubs.I have often wondered how folks publish 6 hubs and have 300 followers, either I'm labeling mine wrong or they just aren't that good.
I have a criteria that I follow when following or approving followers
Following: The term says it all "following", I am a very non trusting individual,I am not about to jump in a car and go tooling around with a stranger,(good way to wind up on Nancy Grace,urrrghh)by the same token I am not going to endorse content which is poorly written or of questionable subject matter. So when I read several pieces from an author that is great work, I gladly become a follower.
Approving followers:
A wise man once said that "You are known by the company you keep" Before I approve a follower I read several pieces of their work and their PROFILE. Therefore I have made an informed decision on the matter and have never had to "Unfollow" anybody.
Interesting hub and the comments from your followers. I rarely receive notification that someone has left a comment, so sometimes I respond a day late. I hope that is not so long that someone thinks I don't care. I soooo appreciate any and all feedback.
haha thanks lynda, the follow feature is so abused that i feel most hubbers would be better without it, although it is nice to know when someone posts something you're interested in, I feel innovation is in order.
After all the comments about forgetting or just being unwilling to respond to other hubbers comments, which i so far haven't been guilty of, I think if i had this many comments it would be innevitable. i don't know if i would have the patience to respond as you do to every comment, and i doubt i would be able to respond as kindly. I do appreciate your patience however :).
I guess that makes sense and while i don't like often read through long comment list I probably would if it was on MY article :).
Gosh, Lynda, what all you are up to. I must admit I never unfollowed somebody. I never thought about it. I promise I would never unfollow you. I have too much respect for you and your writing. I also reply to every comment I receive on my hub. As you say it is sheer manners. Take care and keep well.
Due to my family and work commitments I found that I would be impossible for me to follow more than 50 writers properly. I take following someone seriously so that is why I keep the numbers to a manageable level. I do check the hubs of people who follow me and if I find them interesting enough I might follow but their work would have to be really interesting for me to follow them. I tend to ignore people with only a few hubs and few followers and those who send me fan mail without ever commenting on a hub. (I think you missed this one in your hub.) If my comments on their hubs are ignored, if their hubs become boring and if like you my conscience does not allow me to support someone's views then I hit the unfollow button. Most of what I write isn't really for the people in HubPages but it is really nice to come across like minded and genuine people who aren't here just to make a buck. I have found a few writers here who I genuinely enjoy interacting with but they are few and far between. I am not a man to mince his words but must tell you that I love your writing style and will definitely be following you. I can't however find how to as there is no facility on your hubs to do this. I will be checking out your hubs regularly but as I am not allowed to follow you I will not receive notifications from HP of your latest posts. I had a look at your blog too and I loved that too.
Thank you for sticking to your principles and choosing to be honest and genuine!
I promise you I am not making it up. There is no "follow immartin" tab here. Not to worry. I will be reading your hubs anyway.
Hi Immartin...where does one begin with such a well put together hub?
Perhaps...randomly in the middle (just to spice things up) hmm... OK...Do I want you to follow me? Sure...if you want...I will probably follow you based on this particular hub...i did indeed like it.
Additionally, I've seen the political pitfuls of following certain elements who stalk Hubsville's halls...if only because it interferes with the writing process which is my primary reason for hanging out. There is a certain stridency that drowns out the creative voice...
I Voted Up and across the board because I do that when I like something. Very nice to have gotten acquainted.
I had no idea I was not already following you. My bad!
Nice work I like it. Your speaking the truth even when others may not like sometimes the truth hurts more than others. I also think its rude to not return the comment and agree with you.
I've had my share of people who follow then unfollow when I don't follow back. I can tell by my view total from hubpages that more people are reading my hubs than commenting on them. So I know I have followers who do not comment but do read what I write. I try to answer all comments on my hubs. I don't follow people withthe idea that they have to follow back. Most of the people I follow do not follow me back and that's fine. I followed them because I was new to online publishing and I thought they could teach me a lot and they have.
I am on HupPages for about two weeks, read maybe twenty Hubs or more, gave a Vote Up if I liked the reading, or maintained "useful"if I felt that that was the case. On a few occasions I wrote "Good work!" as I was impressed with that particular topic and the way was dealt with. Still I have no idea whose Hubs were those. I might come across those writers and then read more of their work. I practically read the first few lines of a Hub and if there is something that interest me... I read more; if that is not the case, I just look for something else.
Now, one may look for inspiration and seeing a good Hub would toy with the idea of following the writer of that work. But it might be that once he/she followed that writer full of enthusiasm try to read more of his/her work and his/her enthusiasm would not be the same. As a result he/she would unfollow. Is there anything wrong with this?
On the other hand tere may be something else. You follow a writer and the next day you have to close your profile on Hub. Should you send a letter to your preferred writer you just began to follow, saying almost crying that you need for certain reasons to part... of him/her?
Some new comers may unintentionally break some rules on HubPages and, as a result, they would not be able to even place a comment on another Hub.
In two weeks, twice I was not allowed to publish and place any comment on Hubpages. What happened was that I intended to publish a poem part of a book that has been on the Internet since 1994. The book is mine. Hub maintained that that poem is a "duplicate" I wrote that is mine but no one answered. I deleted that post and anything else I intended to publish, sent them the URL where my book was posted and I came with a new Hub part of a research on comparative religion and anthropology. That article I intended to publish was nowhere else published before but on my Website. But again I was banned. So, I sent them the URL and I convinced them that the work was mine. At that time I had three followers. That counted nothing to me and to them as well. It happened that before I opened an account with Hubpages I entered a debate on an article published here. Those that "followed" me took part in the same debate. Simple! I have no idea if they know that I got in trouble here. I might left them a bad impression as my score on two occasion reached the bottom... "0".
Yesterday I had a new follower. Well, she is a friend o mine. She suggested me to open an account here. So, I follow her too. Because I know how she writes.
I wrote these lines to you because it appears to me that you missed the point in relation to "follow" or "unfolow" a writer.
I recently lost a followers who had been following me from nearly the beginning. I don't know why as this was a hubber who been commenting on my hubs rather than in name only. I don't write about anything controversial in my hubs. Did I say something on someone else's hub or in the forums that made the hubber not like me anymore? I don't know. I have made some comments cooldad's and Bobbirant's hubs that suggest truthfully that I'm liberal and not a religious person. Could that be why?
I try to be a good follower and read a good selection of what other people are writing. I also try to be a good followee and reply to comments, particularly those that go beyond just a "good job" or "great hub" and invite further discussion. But I have to find balance. Some days I spend so much time reading and commenting that I hardly get any writing done. Like today, for example. Darn you, Lynda, for having so many engaging hubs for me to read. : )






























BobbiRant Level 4 Commenter 9 months ago
Well, I've discovered that 'some' new followers may be the reason why one of my hubs ended up on Another site and someone Else was taking credit for it. So I think I don't mind not having Some followers (just my educated guess) LOL Free with your opinions, I love it! I wouldn't have my favorite hubbers any other way.