McNeil Island - facility for dangerous sex offenders -- Oprah April 12 2010 -- response to a request by Sablirab
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- Dangerous Sex Offenders Confined to an Island -- Oprah Show
On April 12, 2010, the Oprah show featured a documentary by Lisa Ling, who visited the controversial facility on McNeil Island, off the coast of Seattle's Puget Sound. Here is a link to information on this program. - The rape of the innocents -- child sex abuse
For thirty years I worked in child protection. It became a driving force of my life. Today I share a small part of this experience.
You asked for my opinion
First: a basket full of qualifiers
This hub is in response to a request for my opinion on the recent Oprah show, Dangerous Sex Offenders Confined on an Island. I am honored to be asked, but as many of you may know my thirty-year history as an outreach worker, a first-responder for abused children has colored my views. I am not the most unbiased of people when it comes to this issue.
I have little patience while listening to those who say treatment is the answer for the predatory child molester, that we live in an age of grace and should believe people can change. I say too bad, too little, too late and these monsters are not entitled to that second chance. The dangerous predatory sex offender who targets the innocent and helpless child is, in my mind, subhuman. There are some crimes for which I find forgiveness impossible, and if that makes me less of a human being in the eyes of those committed to universal brotherly love and compassion, then I’ll await God’s judgment on the question.
Allow me to be even more specific. Spend a few moments in the highlights of my experience before you argue my compassion should encompass these self-centered, conscienceless, self-important and sick-minded individuals, those who believe their orgasm is more important than another’s life. Have you ever held the hand of a three-year-old undergoing a pelvic exam, where the doctors find her tiny vagina so badly torn, her undeveloped cervix so mashed, her uterus so damaged that reconstructive surgery is planned in stages, over the course of years? Have you ever seen a video of two men holding down an eighteen-month girl while they insert a number of objects into her vagina, and known that law-enforcement cannot name or find the child? What words of comfort would you offer to an eleven year old girl raped over a thousand times in a year and a half, rescued from a child molesting pimp who advertised her on Craigslist, or negotiated her rental in chartrooms? How about listening to the audio version only of a video made of the rape/torture of a thirteen year old, because the video portion is deemed too shocking to present as evidence? Would you like to work with a fourteen year old girl, helping her get ready to testify in court against her own father who beat, raped, and sodomized her for six long years? Do you feel like vomiting yet?
So, with that understanding in mind, let’s move on to fulfillment of this request.
- Incarceration, castration or execution -- attempts to control the dangerous, violent sex offender
Society looks at ways to control sex offenders, and finds no real workable answers, as recent events prove. A front line worker in the child protection field writes about the problem.
What do I think of this documentary?
First, let me explain I did not watch this show. I rarely watch Oprah, or Dr. Phil or any shows of their ilk who purport to educate society and expose social ills. Trust me, they do not come close. Nor do I watch those dramas exploiting society’s prurient interest in these subjects like Law and Order, SVU – a show so divorced from reality it is ridiculous. In fact, I’ll go further – if I know a program is about child sex abuse, I avoid it. I don’t need my consciousness raised on this subject.
When I received this request, I went online and carefully read the write up of the documentary, and then searched for responses, and read many of the comments made by viewers.
That facility in question, McNeil Island is not a prison – officially -- but a mental health facility for Level 3 sex offenders.
We need to look at two definitions here:
- Level 3 offenders: In the United States, each state has its own criminal code and classification of offenders, (unlike Canada for example, where criminal laws are federal and the same across the nation) so this example taken from one state may vary in some slight matters from state to state but is unlikely to differ in any major issues:
Level 1 - These offenders present the lowest possible risk to the community and their likelihood to re-offend is considered minimal. They normally have not exhibited predatory type characteristics and most have successfully participated or are participating in approved treatment programs. Many are first time offenders.
Level 2 - These offenders present a moderate risk to the community and they have a higher likelihood of re-offending than the Level 1 offenders. They are considered a higher risk to re-offend, because of the nature of their previous crime(s) and lifestyle (drug and alcohol abuse and other criminal activity). Some have refused to participate or failed to complete approved treatment programs.
Level 3 - These offenders pose a potential high risk to the community and are a threat to re-offend if provided the opportunity. Most have prior sex crime convictions as well as other criminal convictions. Their lifestyles and choices place them in this classification. Some have predatory characteristics and may seek out victims. They may have refused or failed to complete approved treatment programs.
- Prison versus Mental Health facility While in practice the line between the two may seem blurred, and even legally, with the advent of the controversial civil commitment following prison terms, the distinction may seem moot, prison is meant as a punishment and the McNeil Island facility as a “treatment center.”
Those interred on McNeil island have served out their prison sentence, but authorities consider them too dangerous to allow these offenders to return to society. Therefore, they are civilly committed to a ‘mental health facility’ which is to all intents and purposes, a prison of a nicer nature.
Legally – there are those who view this as a violation of the offender’s civil rights – the offender has served his prison sentence and further incarceration is illegal.
Morally – there are those who believe the offenders are victims themselves of some form of mental illness, that their lack of moral inhibitions or control of their impulses is not their fault, but the result of a ‘disease.’ Therefore we owe to them to try and ‘cure’ them, or should that prove impossible, place them in a highly supervised and controlled environment.
Ms. Ling states, “I believe the only way to be able to treat this issue is if we understand the behavior.”
- 52 children recovered, 60 alleged child pimps arrested in crackdown -- but have you heard about it?
Today the FBI announced 52 children recovered during a crack down on the child sex slave industry, according to CNN's computer streaming healines on line. Did any of you hear about it? And why not?
What is my opinion? – that is what I’m asked for here.
There is no power on heaven or earth can move me to feel
pity, sympathy, empathy or compassion for a sexual offender who targets
helpless and innocent children, using them as a utensil to gratify their twisted libidos.
Further, I can find no inkling of consideration for the violent predator who
stalks, rapes, tortures or kills a victim of any age to satisfy their lust for rage,
power, blood or distorted sexuality, and even less concern for the welfare of
those who enslave and exploit others for profit in the bustling sex slave trade.
As far as I am concerned, they may be consigned to the
tender mercies of hell, and we have no need to keep them comfortable while we
wait for them to get there. In fact, perhaps we should help them on their way.
Florida has the right idea. In this state, anyone found guilty of sexual battery of a victim younger than twelve gets an automatic life sentence with no possibility of parole – thus rendering the problem of what to do with these human beasts when they’ve served their sentence a non-issue.
Have I stated my personal opinion clearly enough?
And may God forgive me for my inability to extend that compassion. I must leave that up to Him.
Places for those wanting more information
- Psych Central: Abuse: Childhood Sexual Abuse
Where to go for help, articles about child sex abuse and the life long effects of such, and how to become a child advocate. - Child Abuse Research and Statistics
Some of the best articles on child sex abuse to be found anywhere. One caution -- statistics given are on known and substantiated cases only -- which represents only the tip of the iceberg. - RAINN | Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network | RAINN: The nation\'s largest anti-sexual assault o
RAINN -- Rape, Abuse and Incest -- National Network, funded in part by the Office for Victims of Crime, Office of Justice programs.
About McNeil Island
I read in this article that while confined to the island, residents roam the 5 acre “campus” freely, but are required to follow the rules: No sex with other inmates. Phone calls and internet use are strictly monitored. No magazines or catalogues – anything with images of children that may allow residents to “Tear out the pictures of the little kids in their underwear and use them for deviant fantasies.”-- Kelly Cunningham, superintendent of the facility.
Those residents (not inmates) who enter the sexual predator treatment program, attend therapy sessions and meet with counselors, will be re-evaluated and may have the option of leaving the facility. So far, since 1990 four residents have left unconditionally and sixteen under the condition of supervision. (See my hub, Incarceration, Castration, Execution (linked to the upper right) for details on supervision of sex offenders and see how comforted you feel.)
What truly strikes my thoughts is this: the facility cost $60 million to build and each resident costs the taxpayer $165,000 per year to maintain in this facility.
And how much of this nation’s budget goes to pay for counseling, medical treatment or other aid to their victims?
"I guess I want to live in a world where we believe in grace and [believe] people can change. Knowing that treatment can work for sex offenders is one way of living that." Dr. Carey Sturgeon --clinical director for McNeil Island's special treatment program
For those who believe predatory sex offenders are helpless before their own urges, victims of an illness, I suppose Dr. Sturgeon’s words offer comfort.
For those of us who work with the victims, whose personal experience is with the horrendous suffering these criminals have caused, and whose exposure to the perpetrators found them refusing to take responsibility for their actions, unrepentant of the damage they’ve done to an innocent, and full of self-pity, such statements only fuel our inner feelings of rage. This expensive facility built to house these people who have committed terrible crimes against the weakest, most helpless in our society while we work with the victims for low-pay to no-pay and have to beg, scrounge and apply to every charity out there to fund our programs for the survivors, is a slap in the face, a farce, as though society taunts us with strange priorities.
"If you are able to get off this island, do you think you'll ever be able to be around children?" – Lisa Ling asks one resident.
"Realistically? Probably not. Not in the sense of having interpersonal relationships. I never offended against my children. They're adults now. But to be around say, my grandkids? No. My nephews? Nieces? No. No. That's not an option, and that's a tough one to take." -- Brent, a man who has multiple convictions against both boys and girls.
What some viewers have to say:
Here are some responses to this program from various sites.
"I am a past employee who worked at the Special Committment Center, here in Washington state. I know what goes on in that place and i was very disgusted with these people. They got the very best treatment, as though, they were deserving. They got computers, tv's in their rooms, special ordered meals, always suing somebody/state for something and most of the time they would win. I hated at times to have conversations with them, cause they showed no remorse for what they did and felt the people they committed crime against, they asked for it. In my mind and by working with these people, it is a sickness/disease. I see no way they can be rehabilitated. This is why they are called predators, they search out their prey, then strick quickly. Recently, about 20 of them have gone back into the prison system for possessing children porno on their computers. Some of those guys, i knew them and was not surprised. that so called couselling they get, it is a joke. I resigned there a few years ago, due to lots of things going on. these predators also have a way to reel in staff, to make them do things for them. Some staff brought in cell phones to them, drugs, you name it. a lot of staff have been fired due to falling prey to them. I feel castration should come into play for these people. It is getting so bad now, that our children can not grow up without them killing them or molesting them."
"I want to comment on the show concerning the treatment center on the island for sexual offenders. I think that even the doctors there are completely ignorant!!! As long as those people are breathing and have a brain in their scull they will always reoffend!!! How can anyone think that they can rehabilitate these people? It starts with something as simple as a thought in their head and then feeding on that thought. I don't agree with taxpayers money being used for this, but I do wish there were more of these places to get these people out of society and away from children. I am not meaning to sound so harsh, but I believe we need to be much more aware of this happening in this world and fight back with a vengence to protect our children."
"I watched for the second time and just like the first time i had to turn off my TV and walk away upset due to the thought of the details given on your show today! ( The Most Dengerous child Sex Offenders In America) I mean it is great that you are trying to make parents aware and giving an eyeopener of awareness on sex offenders that live all around us. ( family, friend, and foe) BUT!!! To interview a sex offender and let them in detail descride what they do or did to a child on TV is really SICK!!!! ( Lets not think about the victoms out there and how they get to relive there pain and for some there shame everytime you do an interview) I mean don't you think that all those other offenders who haven't been caught and even thoses in prison and jail who watch your show are( and excuse me for this) getting off on hearing what these other offenders are saying in detail on your show, on live TV that is broadcasted all around the world!!!! Tisk! Tisk! Oprah, don't let the ratings of this show fool you! Who do you really think is watching TV and making your ratings go up on a topic like this! I think you have lost sight of the message and meaning your tring to send out to parents...... It's suppose to be an awareness not a how too!!!"
"I appreciate this issue being covered [yet again] by Oprah. Speaking from a victim/survivor standpoint, I believe it needs to be common-talk in every household if we are ever to end this epidemic of childhood sexual abuse. My father, who was also my childhood molester, moved to a small ocean-side village in Mexico so he could live his last years molesting the innocent village children. When I received word he had died, therefore finally knew where he'd been hiding out, I was not surprised to learn that his trailer was always filled with children, and often the mothers, aunts or caretakers of his victims who would be compensated with clothes, food and money. It took the help of the Department of Homeland Security to retrieve his computer hard drives from this remote island village, and to transport them to the U.S. for forensic investigation. The non-contraband files were sent to me on disk, and through them I learned that my father had been a very busy molester, yet managed to find the time to cross into the U.S. to undergo penile implant surgery. The lengths these predators will go to is astounding. We all need to know and remember this."
"It is amazing to me that taxpayers pay for luxury living for abusers, when elderly people who have never abused have horrid living conditions."
A few more thoughts
I want it known my remarks are directed at dangerous, predatory, violent offenders and those guilty of child molestation and is not intended to apply to all who deservedly or undeservedly bear the label of sex offender due to a mistake in judgment, or through a lure and arrest program. I have recently been made aware of the injustices incurred by many caught up in our zealous attempts to combat this evil.
I'd like to re-iterate one more time the true extent of child sex abuse. Official statistics can only portray known and substantiated cases. World wide child protection workers estimate the incidence of sex crimes against children as 7 out of 10 girls and 4 out of 10 boys under the age of sixteen.
I hope I have adequately filled this request.
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Morning Lynda...as I read what you have written about your experiences I get sicken to think of what man can do to children, yes we hear about it on the news and yes we are warned that yet another has been released and living in your area and yes we see them arrested again and again and again.
Here in Canada several years ago a law was passed on Humane Rights. basically saying each has the same right, the issue at question I have is do those rights remain the same after you have molested a child. What of the rights of the child, the parents and all those who are left to dealt with the aftermath.
Can we judge, we are not suppose too and yet are we simply to stand and say and do nothing as we deal with watching the lives destroyed while these people lounge out their years in incarceration, not likely is what I say.
No matter what kind of man or animal can do these things has the knowledge this is wrong and they are protected over and over again. There needs to be consequences, severe enough to deter them. A prison on the west coast of Canada called a rehab centre, with a Golf Course I might add just released a rehabilitated child molester. He was three days before he was arrested again, freedom to offend again, after all hate to miss a tee time.
It sickens me as I have sat through several ministry sessions in an attempt to give the victim peace over what has happened through the love of God. Like you I have seen the aftermath and like you I see them out in society again.
Passionate about the consequences of the offender like you...can I forgive I struggle with that one...can I love the victim as Christ loves us...I do all I can.
Thank you for the HUb and the information and the research you have put into it...excellent Hub as I again contemplate a series of campaign emails and phone calls to my government representatives...look out I have been stirred again...
Blessings and Hugs as we stand together
Thankyou for being there for those children...I am not sure what is worse the actual torture, or the sense of abandonment by grownups who should have protected them.
Thank You Lynda for the comment and I will be seeking out your other writings on this subject as it is dear to me in many ways. So often the victims are unheard and I thank you and praise God for your dedication of service of becoming the voice for many.
Blessings and Hugs
I fully agree with Lynda. I never had all those experiences like Lynda but the very thought. I think there should be a death penalty. Yes, a death penalty. Many years ago there was a case, and it just shows that they are nothing but self-centred, he conned his way out of prison after agreeing to have had an operation. When he went out, he had the operation reversed straighaway. That again shows to me that it is not only the urge but in the mind. He raped and killed. I hope these so-called phychiatrist had sleepless nights ever since - I doubt it. They are also a lot of idiots.
Thank you Lynda, for a well written hub. Again there should be the death penalty and these days there is no mistake with all that DNA about. Since these Human Rights always keep on. Don't these children have first and most of all the right to Human Rights?
It just shows that after 50 years he still was the same as Nan in her comment stated. No, I am not normally like that but with crimes like that NO WAY have I got any understanding whatsoever. To me it is the worst crime there is. Even murder, in my opinion is not as bad for the victem because they don't suffer anymore. I know it doesn't very nice and I don't mean to make it sound horrible. NO SORRY for me there is only one way to deal with something - I can't call them somebody - like that and it is the death penalty. I think it is a streak of sadism but this is not ment as an excuse. I admire you being able to do the work you have done, knowing the kind person you are. I thank for being able to be there in the worst moment. It must have been horrendous. I don't know what is the matter with people to treat them like that in spending money and giving these fascilities. Have them all gone off their mind. I mean look at the crime and no no no way will they change. I blame that stupid Human Rights which should be for the victem and not for the criminals.
LYNDA YOU ARE ONE IN A MILLION.
Very well written hub that touches on so many important points. I find it appalling how people jump to aid of these repeat offenders and ignore the victims it is shocking how these victims cry out for help and so much money goes towards these people who destroy lives physically and mentally. History has shown how these people generally lake remorse and go back and do it again and again. About time the victim is shown compassion and respect.
Lynda - As always, your article is superbly done. I cannot understand how or why some people could possibly commit such offenses against children, or for that matter, against adults, too. All too often I have had to assist in examining wee little ones such as those you described in your article. Sometimes it took days for me to be able to sleep at night thereafter. The first such child was the one brought to us, dead, by the FBI. Supposedly, the baby was 18 months old when it was killed. That time it was the father they arrested. The mother was hauled off to a mental hospital. I can see the picture right now as I keyboard this note, Lynda. That happened in 1954 - 56 years ago. I am right now next to 80 and the picture, the smell, the grim FBI faces and our weeping M.D. will never go away. Back then, this sort of thing was a lot less prevalent than it is today. Too much "treatment" and not enough rope!
Gus :-O
Hello lmmartin, Thank you for this emotionally exhausting hub. You said, " I don't think evil qualifies as mentally ill. We call them sick because we can't come to terms with what they do otherwise."
I completely agree with you. For too long we fall back on mentally ill while ignoring the innocent victims of these evil people.
I am a Christian and I do believe in forgiveness. However, the same Bible that teaches forgiveness also teaches that "what you sow you reap". People may be forgiven and still punished for their crimes in this life. Another point, I have not noticed these criminals asking for forgiveness. They are certainly NOT repentant! What I am trying to say is that it is not necessary to hate these people to believe they deserve the ultimate punishment for their crimes. It is justice. Period. I agree with Hello Hello that the death penalty is not too much punishment.
Powerful hub and my mind races and my heart fills with fear for this world we live in. I am like just waiting for judgement day to come for all of us. I am just what what have we done each other? The insanity and mental sick plea I never understood that. No one is really in their right mind if they do those horrible acts and kill. So that excuse is does not seem right in my mind. They all hold jobs Im sure know how to hunt a child or lure and kidnap a child so they not that all mental to me.
My only question is if "authorities' have found these people to dangerous to be in society, why did they let them out of prison? I agree with the Florida law, life in prison. Life meaning the life of the inmate. Taxpayers are already supporting the prison system so why not keep these people in it.
I assume the people we are talking about are violent child predators, inhumane criminals that prey on youth to satisfy their violent needs, with no regard for their lives or their feelings, or those of their victims loved ones. My opinion is these people are beyond reform. There is no rehabilitation in these peoples lives, in my opinion.
I attend a sex offender group weekly. There is a person in the group that finished the court ordered program and is now under parole supervision in the local population.
This person should be in jail, forever. I'm telling you like I see it, these people can not be reformed, they hide behind excuses and rationalizations, they are so conditioned to lying to others that they forgot they are lying to themselves.
My Idea, close this facility, put all the people back in jail, take the money saved and distribute it to the members of hub pages so we all can further our knowledge of writing.
Thank you for writing this Hub, Lynda. I truly appriciate you taking the time, to read, research, and give us your opinion.
I will have to read it again, so that I can think about it with a clearer head. Thank you again!
Well done again Lynda on a superb article.I'm shocked to hear of this 'Hotel' for perverts ,and meanwhile in Texas there are Mexican families, who crossed the border illegally, incarcerated in a prison-mothers and babies separated at night!
Yes ,these are evil,wretched people with too many 'do-gooders' supporting a lost cause.
I am against the death penalty, butt it is a touch and go thing with animals who molest children. There is no doubt in my mind, however, that these creatures should NOT be given a “second chance” and should be be Isolated from society for LIFE!
For those who believe in a second chance for people who “reform”, there is a simple test to ascertain whether someone has truly “reformed”. The formula for ascertaining this, goes as follows:
1. In order for someone to reform, that someone must comprehend the MEASURE of the damage he has caused.
2. If one TRULY comprehends the true measure of the damage he has perpetrated on an innocent child, then that person will feel DEVASTATED, to an extent that it becomes unbearable.
3. If the child molester does not feel this devastation, he does not deserve and should not by any means be released, as he poses a continuing threat to children.
4. Any person who truly feels this devastation, will not be able to live with himself and cannot fail but to commit suicide at the damage he has caused and at the realisation of what an animal he was.
So for me, if a child molester can live with himself after what he has done, he cannot possibly have ay regrets, therefore he is a continuing danger to children and should be incarcerated for life.
It seems we have the same hatred for these degenerates that we know will not change and know the judicial system has proved they cannot solve,and have no answers, with a puzzling why not?I know the problem but somehow I am not understanding your solution, with so many years involvement and experience.
I read recently that when people are abused, sexually or otherwise by their parents or other adults, they are more likely to commit there lives to helping those that were similarly treated. Particularly if their parents told them they were ugly and would not amount to anything. Seeing as you profess to be an expert, what are your thoughts?
I only asked what you see the solution as being, I don't even know what solution you thought I meant.
We know they are not going to keep them in jail and as of now they have lost 100,000 repeat offenders,this is a fact so if they can't keep up with them how many hundreds or thousands are being raped or killed right now? That only leaves one solution as I see it. When they and if they ever catch them kill them or fix them. I am not for murder but that is the only ckoice if they can't take away their desire, I even think many may volunteer who really don't want to be the way they are. As I said in one of my hubs, cancer patients have this done, its not like chopping off their penis's like many people think.
Well no I wasn't talking chemical but as I said why can't they at least experiment with this, like on the 100 year old guy who says he will not quit and he got sent home because the judge didn't think he would live that long, well he started molesting and raping when his daughter was a small child and her friends and dozens or more, he didnt even get charged for those.he only got put in jail about 8years ago!Let his life be worth something, try it on him, why not? Something just has to be done I don't know how many time a day I think right now this is happening to some sweet little innocent child and it really casues me problems know nothing will ever be done.Who's to say these sexual urges dont cause a lot of the rage, they can try to find out.
Very interesting read and hub.
I just read that legislation was passed by the House and Senate in Florida to remove the statue of limitations for sexual offenders which often protected them because victims would be afraid to report the abuse. now they will no longer have this limited time period. I think it only applies to victims between the ages of 12-15? something more needs to be done. But yes, I did hear on the news the other day about the lifetime prison sentence with no chance of parole and someone had just received this sentence.
there can be no compassion for these offenders/predators in the true sense of what compassion means. within the true meaning, compassion involves interconnectedness with the feeling, the offense, the pain. how does a human being have compassion for nonhuman behavior? great article, thanks for speaking up.
I have never read an article that so closely matched my own feelings. Right now, this seems to be the best solution . I don't care how much it costs to keep them there, I would accept a tax hike with a smile on my face if this became standard practice. My own thoughts about what should be done with these people are best not written in a public forum, but I too have experiences that have shaped my feelings on the subject. Bless you for the strength to continue with this work.
Immartin, it is a travisty that when it comes to the victims, it takes more to get the money; I often wonder why this happens, and the thought process that goes into this. I still don't quite understand, but hopefully one day I will.
I agree, there is little worse than a person who would take advantage of the innocent for their own personal gain at their expense.
That said, I think its important to remember the priority of prevention of more abuse over "vengeance" against the perpetrators. If by keeping these people alive and studying them we can determine a way to more easily recognize the problem or even come up with a cure for it, we might be able to eradicate the true enemy here, the act of abusing children.
Vengeance on the other hand, only makes us as bad or in many cases worse than the criminal. Its a backward medieval religious concept that has resulted in orders like the catholic priesthood and really does no good for society in practice.
I live in Canada where we are free er thinkers and have not turned into a revengeful country. all of the comments I read seam to think no sex offenders can be rehabilitated, your wrong: I know 3 who are now leading productive lives. what do you blood thirsty people think of murders who get out of prison after serving part sentences and there repetition rate is one of the highest,I see no registry or notification for them.
As far as all the references to GOD I ask you which one? there are many. I am an ashiest but find myself more compassionate and forgiving than all you god fearing people with no compassion.





















Nan 2 years ago
This an excellent article and has brought out many things that I did not know. Why are we giving them a special place to live. Recently in my home town a child molester, was let out after serving about 50 years to live in our community and we didn't know he was coming. He killed and molestered a 3 year girl. I don't think that he should have ever been let out of prison. The judge approved of him being released. There is a school a few blocks from his apartment, and nice apartments in the neighborhood. How does he rate. They tried to interview him on TV, and he looked insane. He is still insane. WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM AND SOCIETY. IF YOU ARE CRIMINALLY INSANE, YOU WILL PROBABLY NOT GET WELL. When will we understand that some people are born mentally ill. Oprah was raped and molestered by her family and friends, so she does know that it will affect you forever! I believe that if they truly go to church and seek forgiveness and to be saved from their sins they might be healed. But they have damaged so many children, that God is the only one that can forgive them, not man. Keep up the good writing.